Bad Things Happen

We create our worlds by what we imagine. "Well, I certainly never imagined THAT bad thing!" Jesus said, "Know what is in thy sight, and what is hidden from thee will be revealed to thee. For there is nothing hidden which will not be manifest" (Thomas). The bad thing manifests to reveal to us what is hidden in our imaginations. We never imagine it for ourselves, but allow its possibility for someone else. THAT is a bad thing. I am reminded of Willian Marrion Branham speaking to the spirit of infirmity in a young deaf girl. You've got to go. Then she could hear. Her deafness manifested that people mentally allowed that a child could be deaf. Billy said, "No."

Mark 5:39 -- Abdullah and Jesus

It makes a great impression, Abdullah saying to Neville when Neville expressed a great desire to visit his family in Barbados, "You are in Barbados" (see "God's Law and His Promise," at 15:00). I finally heard Jesus saying the same to those mourning the death of Jairus' daughter, "The little sleeping girl is not dead except sleeping" (Mark 5:39 Alexander). This was Jesus' "You are in Barbados." She was sleeping as much as Neville was in Barbados. But Jesus had told the synagogue leader, "Just believe." Believe that she is "except sleeping," in spite of all evidence of her being dead. He put them all outside, then, "Little girl, arise." And then, "Get her something to eat."

Suddenly, the Bible is full of Abdullah's "You are in Barbados": "Go, the son is alive" (John 4:50 Alexander). "The demon has left your daughter" (Mark 7:29 Alexander). Etc.

IT IS UP TO YOU TO IMAGINE

 “Say” what you will.

Fear Mongering Fear Creation And Neville's In

The Church, unfortunately, markets fear. Eschatology is big business. Big, lucrative business. It "brings them in." Signs of the end times. Are you ready for the rapture? The Great Tribulation. Are you saved? Is your family? Hell and torment. Help us get this important word out--then the end will come.

Yes, because you have MADE it. What we think, believe, assume to be true always becomes. That is spiritual law. It does not matter why we are thinking it, only that we do. And the Church surely fears. 24/7. Of course, the Church is only obeying Christ and the Apostles:

"This then is my commandment, that you love one another* (to one) [;] just as I loved you (John 15:12 Alexander),

Wait, what?

"Rejoice in our Lord in every season, and again I say, rejoice. And your gentle spirit will become known to every human being, for our Lord is always near* (or, And your gentleness makes itself known to every human. Our Lord close by He is). So that you will never be at a loss for anything, except on every occasion, by kneeling down in prayer, by rogation and confession of faith, your questions will become known before God. And the peace of God that is greater than anything, shall protect your hearts and make the answers known to you through Jesus Christ. Hence, brethren, those things that are true, modest, righteous, pure, merciful, praiseworthy, and those acts of glorification and virtue -- that is what you shall advocate. Those things that you learned and accepted, heard and seen in me, that is what you shall commit to, and the God of Peace shall be with you" (Philippians 4:4-9 Alexander, bold emphasis mine).

No, no! Think financial collapse. Mark of the beast. Deprivation. Persecution. Wormwood and ruin. Flames. Get with the program, Paul.

Shouldn't our mental end be our desired end? Wars and persecutions will take care of themselves; they do not need us to promote them.

"And whoever gives one of these small ones, who go by the name of disciple, a cup of water to drink, though it is only cold water, amen I am telling you, their recompense shall not be lost" (Matthew 10:42 Alexander).

I think God would have us all be Good Samaritans in thought and action. See and expect everything GOOD, LOVELY, PERFECT. I think that was Neville Goddard’s in. Be noble. “I call you friends.” “The greatest of these is love.”

Best "What The Unpardonable Sin Really Is" (It Is Refusing To Allow Your Heart To Love Others As The Holy Spirit Would Have You)

From the book Your God Is Too Small by J. B. Phillips (1961, New York: The Macmillian Company, page 105 [page 76 of 92 in linked pdf]):

"This, from an examination of the context, would appear to be a combination of refusing to recognize truth of the oneness of God and refusing to allow the heart to love others."

The scribes and Pharisees were refusing to allow their hearts to love others as the Holy Spirit would have them. Do not do that. Allow your heart to love.

LOA Response By Invisible Conscious Agency?

My world is consciousness, and its stimulus is assumption. Neil deGrasse Tyson (and others like him) talks about a "god of the gaps." The god in the gap for Law Of Attraction (LOA) enthusiasts is vibration. Their own mental vibration draws the house they want to them (see that big gouge in the road?). The God in the gap for me is the Divine Consciousness. It intelligently responds to what I need to become Its Manifestation by ASSUMING the end desired exists and creating a course to that existence. Mental energy is expended. The Ineffable's Consciousness has such power. If the Law Of Attraction works at all, it is that Divine Intelligence knocking on head-balls trying to direct them in the right direction: "When it (assumption, which is what LOA actually does) works, you have found Him, God, to be your own, wonderful, HUMAN imagination" (Neville Goddard). No vibration involved except for your controlled assumption.

Response is key. Things that happen without explanation may be miracles or coincidences. Neil Tyson et al. would say unexplained happenings are gaps in our scientific knowledge, as there are no miracles--it is just something we have no scientific knowledge of working normally. Happenings in response beg the question. Someone asks for something, and in IMMEDIATE RESPONSE it is granted. By whom? Is it our mental powers at work? The power of some other conscius or conscii? The Divine Intelligence Itself? Neil? It was a very small thing. I watched my left arm grow out about five-eighths of an inch. It happened at the very instant Charles Hunter asked Jesus to do it. That was my first "creative" miracle. Had it happened while I was driving down the road or watching TV, it would have been spooky, but explainable as something "in the gap." It being a definite response says, "SOMEONE POWERFUL IS THERE, A GAP IN YOUR SPIRITUAL KNOWLEDGE. Y'ALL BETTER FIND OUT WHO THIS CONSCIOUS POWER IS--MUY PRONTO!"

YHWH Does NOT Mean "I AM": In A Roundabout Way It Means YOU Are--THAT's The Point of Exodus 3:14's AHYH, "I BECOME"

Sorry to bring this up again for the several hundredth time. The Hebrew word YHWH does not mean "I am." Not directly, anyway. YHWH is from the Hebrew verb hayah (Strong's 1961), to be or to become. There is the idea of transition in it.* The yod prefix is THIRD PERSON: "HE becomes." We probably would read it as "He who becomes." First person in Hebrew is marked by the prefix aleph: AHYH: "I become." That is what it says in Exodus 3:14, where God stresses that HE HIMSELF BECOMES THAT WHICH EXISTS; "I become what I become"; i.e., that which is...is HIM!!! So, as He has become us, it comes around: "[Unless] you believe that I am I, you shall die in your sins" (John 8:24 Alexander). Not that He is the One who says, "I AM," but that YOU are Him, the One who says, "I AM."

God becomes what He assumes He is. With His having become us, WE BECOME WHAT WE ASSUME WE ARE. That is what our "life" is. If we assume something is possible, that it might happen, it may. We would never imagine that our healthy child has cancer or some other disease, but if we assume that it is possible, it is. It is just part of our assumption of what life is. The trick is to assume that our existence IS that which we desire, not as our desire, but as our true experience. Subjectively exist there--thinking FROM that experience--as though what we desire had already become objective fact, so that it will.

Assume good things, with love, praise, and thanksgiving!!

* See Bullinger The Companion Bible, note on Genesis 1:2, 'was'. Interestingly, while the KJV has "And the earth was without form, and void," Alexander has, "And the earth was for Him and by Him," Makes me think HE TOOK OVER THE SHIPWRECK OF THE FIRST FLIP.

Grace of the Gaps: Powers that Work

What if all the works of God are exertions of conscii who believe in Him? There is benevolence in the universe. Rains stop, flowers bloom, wounds heal, birth occurs. Were we billions of years old, we would know grace. That would be the nature of our God. Here is earth, a newbie. Let's god it, teach it His nature as we know it. Hence there is response to prayer, protection from harm, advice and wisdom, words of knowledge and prophecy. Scripture is watched over to be performed, to evidence the nature of the Ineffable.

We cannot scientifically explain deliberate, timed spiritual actions yet. The powers act upon their own beliefs. God is conscii. That is their belief and mine. The Ineffable? I never hope to meet It. I accept that it is and submit to It and Its grace as evidenced by Its manifestation. All I can do, all WE CONSCII can do, is DO what It does: Love, Mercy, and Grace.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson - On God of The Gaps

Neil Degrasse Tyson - On "The God Of The Gaps" and "Intelligent Design"

Conscii: Daniel Branham-Steele's View Of The "With Persecutions"

There is a principle I see: the more Wisdom comes forth, the more Ignorance stands against it. The greater Jesus became, the more the Pharisees and scribes hated and attacked Him. It works here, too. There is jealousy involved. Jealousy of what? Conscii. We are conscii attached to the brains within these bodies.

I do not have a better words for self-aware individual units of consciousness than the Latin conscius and its plural conscii. This is not a course in semantics, but using the word 'person' evokes images of physicality, and 'spirit' is associated with ghosts. 'Entity' is close to the idea, but besides possible physicality I associate it with ghostly spookiness. 'Angel' and 'demon' are are limited to their purpose and function. The Hebrew adam (120), iysh (376), gerber (1397), and neshamah (5397) all miss the idea of consciousness alone. Thus I elect that what our conscious mind is alone without the body are conscii--individual, spiritual, self-aware/imagining units of the Divine consciousness. We are conscii. Bodies die. Conscii do not.

All conscii are individual, self-aware units of imagination from the one consciousness of the ineffable No-thing. There are good (wise and mature) conscii, and there are bad (ignorant and immature) conscii. All conscii are created from the eternal No-thing and carry Its nature. All conscii are imagination, i.e., something's IMAGINING. Conscii are limited by the nature of God. God, even as a being, is the action of the Ineffable's consciousness; i.e., It is Its imaginING. What It does not think does not exist.

The Eternal No-thing is the ultimate Conscius, and is the source of all conscii. The No-thing's consciousness is tiered, self-structured, and thus Its conscii are also. The Ineffable assumes in Its imagination that It is something It has thought, and Its intelligence thus becomes what I believes It is. That is the act we are following. But Its thoughts are not without challenge. The thought, "I am such," has to contend with the responding reality, "No, you are not." "Oh yes, I am!" The Divine "I am !" wins out, but not without contending with the initial corresponding challenge, the doubt.

Here is the dealio: the magnitude of the "You are not!" corresponds to the greatness of the imagined "I am." This is the war in heaven, and it occurs in reality in our head-balls and our lives, for the Divine Conscius has become we conscii. Its ignorance, which is now our ignorance, is that which we must overcome. To do so, we must come to the realization that we as conscii are ultimately God in Its own self-improvement procedure--as though that self-improvement were already accomplished, for in God's view IT ALREADY HAS BEEN. God is in the process of eliminating Its own ignorance, and as God we get to choose which way we go in remedy.

The Eternal No-thing is not in a hurry. As conscii we can go on in ignorance for an eternity and still have time for a resolution of repentance. The No-thing will have Its way: "Thy will must be being done..." (Matthew 6 according to Ferrar Fenton) "...both in Heaven and upon the Earth." There are not really any options to the overall program. We have been around since before the universe began, and the universe has been around for at least 13 billion years. Countless trillions of planets have had life on them for longer than the earth has existed. As conscii we grow and develop, graduate in maturity and understanding and power. Some for better, some for worse, all for the destiny.

It is my personal belief that there is a religion of sorts among the wisest of the ancient conscii. They know that the Ineffable exists, and they understand what It is doing. Billions of years of evidence will convince you. They recognize that It has become them, and that they are It. Thus their mission: to do Its will as though they--we--were It...for we are. I figure we humans are supposed to join the club, for we are the manifestation of the program, and are to display its conclusion, persecutions be damned.

Sandra: My Second Response

Sandra. Thank you so much for your query. It made something I had never seen before come to light (but then again, I am exceedingly dumb). I had doubts about the Angel of YHWH, Who is YHWH, becoming incarnate and aware, because He left no notes. I would expect Him to inform us of everything, to fill the earth with books explaining all of what is, how it works, and what the heck He is doing. I was composing a response to the absence of any evidence of the historic Jesus Christ. Christians accept spiritual fulfillment. "Spiritual" fulfillment does not wash with the Jews. They only accept physical fulfillment. For them, there is no spiritual without corresponding physical.

The Temple persecution of Christians was nothing if not thorough. They rubbed out EVERYTHING about the heresy of a dead Messiah. Paul was just one of many sent to foreign cities to eliminate every vestige of evidence. They entered houses, imprisoned believers--people died. Then my insight: Jesus, if He did incarnate, had no reason to physically publish His truth, for HE WORKS DIRECTLY WITH THE BRAINS OF HIS BELIEVERS. All we could read, He tells! Simon is the hearing, OUR hearing. "Upon this rock..." Early Christians did not have copies of the Bible to peruse. They believed, and God spoke. Speaks. I have been living on it for years. Apparently, so have you. That is why we have left "churchianity" for the truth He tells us, reveals to us.

"Why did it take so long for the gospels to be finally written after the supposed life of Jesus?" Because the authors kept getting killed. The "with persecutions" manifested: super Christians, super persecutions.

"Jesus says 'there are some standing here who will not taste death at all until they see the kingdom of God has come with power' (Mark 9:1) (the next generation did not see the kingdom of God come)." Nay nay. Some of the disciples were killed straightaway. EVERY generation of spiritually born-again-from-above believers has seen the Kingdom of God come with power...Hallelujah!!

"In Paul’s writings, there isn’t a single mention of the historical story of Jesus." You are reading skeptics' poppycock. Nothing wrong with that, but disprove everything, and keep only that which cannot be disproven. Read 1 Corinthians 11: 23ff.

Luke provides a Greek perspective. To them the then Roman empire was the whole world. And the birth of Jesus was their perspective of the Jewish view (the Jews believed all births are attended by angels).

"No historical evidence of the city of Nazareth." Nazareth means "the Victorious." Jesus was raised in "the Victorious City," or, "the City of Victory." This might just refer to/be code for his mental state, the way He was raised, or His moral resolution to live a sinless life, i.e., the mental Jerusalem: the brain. Anyway, He was called the Nazarene--the Victorious One. Would have been a pretty good teacher. Would have taught us that we have to learn to read.

And etc.

Was He incarnate? Well, look inside. Is He?

Dan Steele
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From Sandra:

Dan, I believe I’m on to something.

I don’t believe Jesus came 2,000 years ago, but please hear me out.

As Gospel of Thomas says:

"Ask without hidden motive and be surrounded by your answer, be enveloped by what you desire. That your gladness be full."

Could the NT have been written as a prophesy to be fulfilled in the last days (I know lot of the NT has been added to and fabricated but I think I the truth in can be found)? So the writers/prophets wrote this same way as praying as if the Jesus event had already occurred? Although Paul kept saying he is to come. Have you ever heard of 'prophetic perfect'? Many scholars say many parts of the bible were written as if things had occurred because they were so sure the event was going to take place.

So I am saying, what if Jesus has not come yet and is meant to come in the last days to fulfil New Testament (NT) and Old Testament (OT) scriptures for the first time? That is what Jesus’s job is, to reveal the truth about the scriptures (he comes once at the end of the age).Please see scripture to back up what I am saying.

The bible and other sacred books are telling us the mystery, which was kept secret for long ages will be revealed through the prophetic writings in the last days (Rom 16:25). The mystery is about Christ (Col 4:2), who appeared once (and only once) for all at the end of the age (Heb 9:26) to testify to the truth (John 18:37) and undo all that the devil has done (1 John 3:8). The devilish works began after a father had lost his son, and he began honouring him as a God. Over time, this godless custom grew and hardened and received worship by command and princes. They would carve images in honour of him. Even people who did not know him spread his cult and it became observed by law. This became the pitfall for life (Wis 14:12).

Jesus doesn’t come to abolish the law and the prophets but comes to fulfil them (Eph 6:12). The main aim for Jesus and his saints is to make the Word of God fully known, which is the mystery hidden for ages and generations, and made manifest to them (Col 1:24). In the OT it also says the words are shut up and sealed until the time of the end (Dan 12:9).

Jesus is not happy with the scribes and Pharisees blaming them for shutting up the kingdom of heaven (Matt 23:13) by exchanging the truth of God for a lie, and worshipping and serving the creature rather than the Creator (Rom 1:25). The bible tells us to leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and faith towards God (Heb 6:1).

Before Jesus comes, the rebellion must come first and the man of lawlessness is revealed (object of worship who takes his seat in the temple of God). For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work and Jesus will destroy him with the breath of his mouth and by his appearing and coming (2 Thess 2:1).

Jesus talks about the tribulation (events of end days) and tells his disciples that their generation will not pass until all these things takes place (Mark 13:30). Jesus also says that there are some standing there who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God has come with power (Mark 9:1).

The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophesy (Rev 19:9).

Please see the following scriptures:

Hebrews 1:1 In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets; but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.

Hebrews 9:26 If Christ had offered himself many times, he would have needed to suffer many times since the time the world was made. But he came to offer himself only once. And that once is enough for all time. He came at a time when the world is nearing an end. He came to take away all sin by offering himself as a sacrifice.

Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By his great mercy we have been born anew to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and to an inheritance, which is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, who by God’s power are guarded by faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Peter 1:20 He was destined before the foundation of the world but made manifest at the end of times for your sake. Through him you have confidence in God, who raised him from the dead and gave him glory so that your faith and hope are in God.

Ephesians 1:9 For he has made known to us in all wisdom and insight the mystery of his will, according to his purpose which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

Romans 16:25 Now to him who is able to strengthen you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which was kept secret for long ages but is now disclosed through the prophetic writings is made known to all nations, according to the command of the eternal God, to bring about obedience of faith-to the only wise God be glory for ever more through Jesus Christ! Amen.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.

John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father.

On the origins of the world 125:15 Now the Word (Logos) that is superior to all beings was sent for this purpose alone: that he might proclaim the unknown. He said (Mark 4:22), There is nothing hidden that is not apparent, and what has not been recognised will be recognised.

Dead Sea Scrolls, 1 QpHab 7:4-5 and God told Habakkuk to write down that which would happen to the final generation, but He did not make known to him when time would come to an end. And as for that which He said, That he who reads may read it speedily: interpreted this concerns the Teacher of Righteousness, to whom God made known all the mysteries of the words of His servants and Prophets.

Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for you neither go in yourselves, neither allow you them that are entering to go in.

The Gospel of Thomas 39 The Pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge (gnosis) and hidden them. They themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed those who want to. You, however, be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves.

Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like the son of man and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him.

Daniel 12:4 But you Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world as testimony to all nations; and then the end will come. “So when you see the desolating sacrilege spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then those who are in Judea flee to the mountains etc. And Mark 13:14

Micah 4:1 It shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established as the highest of the mountains.

Romans 1:25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

Matthew 5:17 “Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them.”

1 John 3:8 It was to undo all that the devil has done that the Son of God appeared.

Hebrews 6:1 Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and faith toward God.

Galatians 4:4 But when the time had fully come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, so that we might receive adoption of sons.

Luke 22:37 For I tell you this scripture must be fulfilled in me, ‘And he was reckoned with transgressors’, for what is written about me has its fulfilment.

Mark 9:1 And he said to them, ‘Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.”

Matthew 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John; and if you are willing to accept it, he is Elijah who is to come. He who has ears to hear, let him hear.

Matthew 17:10 And the disciples asked him, “Then why do the scribes say that first Elijah must come?” He replied, Elijah does come, and he is to restore all things; but I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not know him, but did to him whatever they pleased. So also the son of man will suffer at their hands.” Then the disciples understood that he was speaking to them of John the Baptist (Mark 9:11 also).

Revelations 5:6 And between the throne and the four living creatures and among the elders, I saw a Lamb standing as though it has been slain.

Matthew 24:34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away till all these things take place (tribulation-sun darkened, moon will not give its light etc.) and Mark 13:30

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembly to meet him, we beg you, brethren, not to be quickly shaken in mind or excited, either by spirit or word, or by letting purporting to be from us, to the effect that day of the Lord has come. Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God. Do you not remember that when I was with you and told you this???? (I think this sentence has been added later– out of context). And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, and the Lord Jesus will slay him with his breath of his mouth and destroy him by his appearing and coming.

Wisdom 14:12 The invention of idols was the origin of fornication, their discovery the corrupting of life. They did not exist at the beginning, they will not exist forever; through human vanity they came into the world and hence a sudden end has been designed for them.
A father afflicted by untimely mourning makes an image of his child so swiftly taken, and now he honours as a God what yesterday had only been a dead man, bequeathing initiations to his dependents. Then in the course of time the godless custom hardens, and is observed by law and, by command and princes, the carved images receive worship.
Of those who lived too far away to be honoured in person men would make a portrait from a distance and produce a visible image of the king they honoured, meaning, by such zeal, to flatter the absent as if he were with them. Even people who did not know him were stimulated into spreading his cult by the idealism of the artist; for the latter, doubtless wishing to please the ruler, exerted all his skill to make the likeness finer than reality and the crowd, carried away by the beauty of the work, accorded divine honours to him whom only recently they had honoured as a man. And this became the pitfall for life, that men, whether slaves to misfortune or princely power, should have bestowed the incommunicable name on sticks and stones.

On the Origins of the world And thus when the world had come into being, it distractedly erred at all times. For all men upon earth worshiped the spirits (demons) from the creation to the consummation - both the angels of righteousness and the men of unrighteousness. Thus did the world come to exist in distraction, in ignorance, and in a stupor. They all erred, until the appearance of the true man.

Mark 4:22 “For there is nothing hid, except to be made manifest; nor is anything secret, except to come to light. If any man has ears to hear, let him hear.”

Gospel of Thomas 2 Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All.

The OT prophesied of a Messiah coming in the last days, the Dead Sea Scrolls and Nag Hammadi texts also. I believe the NT is also prophesying about Jesus coming in the last days (for the first time). There are so many other reasons to cast doubt on the Jesus of 2,000 years ago (which really can’t be ignored). This includes:

· Not a single historical mention of Jesus during his whole life (around 4BC-30AD). Not by Romans or by Jews, not by believers or by unbelievers, not during his entire lifetime. Surely someone would have noticed and jotted something down.

· When Christianity began there were a number of uncertainties and disagreements about the historical Jesus, and some Gnostic groups claimed that Jesus had not come in the flesh at all and that he was spiritual.

· Why did it take so long for the gospels to be finally written after the supposed life of Jesus?

· One of the oddest facts about the NT is the fall of Jerusalem (70CE), which was never mentioned once in the NT. If the gospels had been written after this, like most scholars believe, the authors could have used this as history verifying the prophesies of Jesus.

· In Paul’s writings, there isn’t a single mention of the historical story of Jesus.

· Paul said that there were some Christians preaching another gospel to the one they were preaching but how could that be possible only a few years after the supposed crucifixion.

· Luke 2:2 says Jesus was born during a census-not likely that the Romans would require the whole population of the whole country to be involved in a census, let alone the whole world.

· No historical evidence of the city of Nazareth. The Jews’ minor objection to the Christian Messiah was the fact he had been unsuccessful.

· Jesus says “there are some standing here who will not taste death at all until they see the kingdom of God has come with power (Mark 9:1) (the next generation did not see the kingdom of God come).

· There were many messianic prophecies that Jesus had failed to fulfill, so this may be why early Christians therefore taught he would return for a second coming.

· There is absolutely clear evidence running through the NT documents that the early followers of Jesus (Nazarenes) were convinced that they were living very close to the end of the Age (NT Texts on the Imminence of the End).

I did speak personally to Wayne Dyer about Jesus coming in the last days (for the first time). He didn’t say much about it. I hope you have an open mind and can see and interpret the scriptures and find the truth.

I am really looking so forward with hope to talk with you further (as there is so much more).

Kindest regards,

Sandy

Sandra: My First Response

I received an email from Sandra in Australia. She posed some questions, expressed some opinions, and wanted some feedback (see below). Sandra gave me some things to think about, and I had a significant breakthrough in my own thinking about why Jesus, if He did incarnate as reported, left no tangible evidence (see second response, forthcoming).
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Hello, Sandra.

Give me a few minutes to respond to all this. Yes, you are on to something. Basically, it is called eschatology, but I am sure you already know that. Trying to figure out the end-times can almost drive you mad, but it is part of the exercise we have been given (Ecclesiastes 1:13). There is so much here to respond to--my comments may seem scattered as I first hit this, and then that.

Advice: Do not think certain things are untrue simply because you do not know HOW they are true. I constantly remind myself that my God is too small...because I am too stupid. There IS a Jesus, a quality of the real God's being. Has that quality ever been a man? It has never been gone from us, so the question is how--in what way--does It ever become more in a man? Jesus is a divine quality which can take form to appear and to speak, physically and in the imagination. That is definite, as these have happened to BILLIONS of people. It does not hurt to be surrounded by this quality with our gladness being full.

Please look again at Daniel 9:24ff. Seventy sevens for said purposes to be concluded. I call this period the Season of Grace (from a comment by Victor Alexander). Its history from the going forth of the proclamation to the ascension of its subject is a PICTURE, a snapshot of the age, an illustration of the program--the whole age in a 490-year prophetic miniature. The end of the historic age (our future) is at the end of the illustration (in our historic past; i.e., the advent). I believe the Season did happen; I just do not know HOW it happened. Did the conscious quality, YHWH, transcend into a physical person? Did an inspired, morally perfect man take on the role? Was a devout congregation illumined? Was it all symbolic correspondence to a vision of the real? I don't know--I wasn't there. But I know that the Guy talks to me, and I know honest people who have physically seen Him, so I figure something--any or all of the above--actually happened. He personally says it did. I do not know HOW it happened, but I do not like calling Him a liar in any case (I'm allergic to leprosy).

Prophets who SEE future events report what they have seen, what (for them) DID happen, hence the prophetic perfect. I need to add that these things may be apocalyptic, kind of supercharged to the extreme for emphasis. E.g., our struggle with temptation seen as a great war in heaven.

I have another perspective on the end-times. I believe we have been in a running end since what transpired at the Beginning--the event of creation. There the Son of God (i.e., imagination) "flipped" from just being spirit into being a dimensional, physical reality. This flip entailed the newly created form being made ignorant of what it actually is by amnesia. Ignorance is a fault, a sin. It is unlike God, BUT IT WAS AND IS GOD'S fault. Our life as an ignoranced being (for we have all flipped into this amnesia) is for the resolution of what God did. He knew this when He became, for which He forgave us as He became. It all happened at the Beginning, as the Son of God WAS the Beginning crucified on the flesh. Now we are following the process the Divine went through in Its own development prior to creation--discovery, maturing, growth, sanctification. He BECAME what we are BECOMING.

I am not at all sure that the end TIMES actually lead up to an end END. The times themselves are an ongoing end towards a gradually accomplished perfection. We are going through the experience of time, but God's reality transcends time, where beginning and end are the same. Maybe that is because He has already thought through every potential, possibility, constraint and resolution that will lead up to His full manifestation, and presently we are simply bringing every thought He has had into manifestation to get there. He is eternal, so why would it ever end? We will always be able to imagine something new, because He will. We will always be becoming more like Him--whatever He, the Ineffable, is. Good God we have a long way to go.

Thank you for writing and asking. More to come.

Dan Steele

PS: I believe the end you see as Christ's first actual appearing ("what if Jesus has not come yet and is meant to come in the last days to fulfill New Testament and Old Testament scriptures for the first time?") occurred at the beginning, was in fact THE beginning. That was the Beginning Jesus was in Genesis 1:1. It is just being played out in the process of time. 
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From Sandra:

Dan, I believe I’m on to something.

I don’t believe Jesus came 2,000 years ago, but please hear me out.

As Gospel of Thomas says:

"Ask without hidden motive and be surrounded by your answer, be enveloped by what you desire. That your gladness be full."

Could the NT have been written as a prophesy to be fulfilled in the last days? (I know lot of the NT has been added to and fabricated, but I think the truth in it can be found.) So the writers/prophets wrote this same way as praying as if the Jesus event had already occurred? Although Paul kept saying he is to come. Have you ever heard of 'prophetic perfect'? Many scholars say many parts of the bible were written as if things had occurred because they were so sure the event was going to take place.

So I am saying, what if Jesus has not come yet and is meant to come in the last days to fulfil New Testament (NT) and Old Testament (OT) scriptures for the first time? That is what Jesus’s job is, to reveal the truth about the scriptures (he comes once at the end of the age). Please see scripture to back up what I am saying.

The bible and other sacred books are telling us the mystery, which was kept secret for long ages will be revealed through the prophetic writings in the last days (Rom 16:25). The mystery is about Christ (Col 4:2), who appeared once (and only once) for all at the end of the age (Heb 9:26) to testify to the truth (John 18:37) and undo all that the devil has done (1 John 3:8). The devilish works began after a father had lost his son, and he began honouring him as a God. Over time, this godless custom grew and hardened and received worship by command and princes. They would carve images in honour of him. Even people who did not know him spread his cult and it became observed by law. This became the pitfall for life (Wis 14:12).

Jesus doesn’t come to abolish the law and the prophets but comes to fulfil them (Eph 6:12). The main aim for Jesus and his saints is to make the Word of God fully known, which is the mystery hidden for ages and generations, and made manifest to them (Col 1:24). In the OT it also says the words are shut up and sealed until the time of the end (Dan 12:9).

Jesus is not happy with the scribes and Pharisees blaming them for shutting up the kingdom of heaven (Matt 23:13) by exchanging the truth of God for a lie, and worshipping and serving the creature rather than the Creator (Rom 1:25). The bible tells us to leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and faith towards God (Heb 6:1).

Before Jesus comes, the rebellion must come first and the man of lawlessness is revealed (object of worship who takes his seat in the temple of God). For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work and Jesus will destroy him with the breath of his mouth and by his appearing and coming (2 Thess 2:1).

Jesus talks about the tribulation (events of end days) and tells his disciples that their generation will not pass until all these things takes place (Mark 13:30). Jesus also says that there are some standing there who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God has come with power (Mark 9:1).

The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophesy (Rev 19:9).

Please see the following scriptures:

Hebrews 1:1 In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets; but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.

Hebrews 9:26 If Christ had offered himself many times, he would have needed to suffer many times since the time the world was made. But he came to offer himself only once. And that once is enough for all time. He came at a time when the world is nearing an end. He came to take away all sin by offering himself as a sacrifice.

Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By his great mercy we have been born anew to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and to an inheritance, which is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, who by God’s power are guarded by faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Peter 1:20 He was destined before the foundation of the world but made manifest at the end of times for your sake. Through him you have confidence in God, who raised him from the dead and gave him glory so that your faith and hope are in God.

Ephesians 1:9 For he has made known to us in all wisdom and insight the mystery of his will, according to his purpose which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

Romans 16:25 Now to him who is able to strengthen you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which was kept secret for long ages but is now disclosed through the prophetic writings is made known to all nations, according to the command of the eternal God, to bring about obedience of faith-to the only wise God be glory for ever more through Jesus Christ! Amen.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.

John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father.

On the origins of the world 125:15 Now the Word (Logos) that is superior to all beings was sent for this purpose alone: that he might proclaim the unknown. He said (Mark 4:22), There is nothing hidden that is not apparent, and what has not been recognised will be recognised.

Dead Sea Scrolls, 1 QpHab 7:4-5 and God told Habakkuk to write down that which would happen to the final generation, but He did not make known to him when time would come to an end. And as for that which He said, That he who reads may read it speedily: interpreted this concerns the Teacher of Righteousness, to whom God made known all the mysteries of the words of His servants and Prophets.

Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for you neither go in yourselves, neither allow you them that are entering to go in.

The Gospel of Thomas 39 The Pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge (gnosis) and hidden them. They themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed those who want to. You, however, be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves.

Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like the son of man and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him.

Daniel 12:4 But you Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world as testimony to all nations; and then the end will come. “So when you see the desolating sacrilege spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then those who are in Judea flee to the mountains etc. And Mark 13:14

Micah 4:1 It shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established as the highest of the mountains.

Romans 1:25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

Matthew 5:17 “Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them.”

1 John 3:8 It was to undo all that the devil has done that the Son of God appeared.

Hebrews 6:1 Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and faith toward God.

Galatians 4:4 But when the time had fully come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, so that we might receive adoption of sons.

Luke 22:37 For I tell you this scripture must be fulfilled in me, ‘And he was reckoned with transgressors’, for what is written about me has its fulfilment.

Mark 9:1 And he said to them, ‘Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.”

Matthew 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John; and if you are willing to accept it, he is Elijah who is to come. He who has ears to hear, let him hear.

Matthew 17:10 And the disciples asked him, “Then why do the scribes say that first Elijah must come?” He replied, Elijah does come, and he is to restore all things; but I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not know him, but did to him whatever they pleased. So also the son of man will suffer at their hands.” Then the disciples understood that he was speaking to them of John the Baptist (Mark 9:11 also).

Revelations 5:6 And between the throne and the four living creatures and among the elders, I saw a Lamb standing as though it has been slain.

Matthew 24:34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away till all these things take place (tribulation-sun darkened, moon will not give its light etc.) and Mark 13:30

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembly to meet him, we beg you, brethren, not to be quickly shaken in mind or excited, either by spirit or word, or by letting purporting to be from us, to the effect that day of the Lord has come. Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God. Do you not remember that when I was with you and told you this???? (I think this sentence has been added later– out of context). And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, and the Lord Jesus will slay him with his breath of his mouth and destroy him by his appearing and coming.

Wisdom 14:12 The invention of idols was the origin of fornication, their discovery the corrupting of life. They did not exist at the beginning, they will not exist forever; through human vanity they came into the world and hence a sudden end has been designed for them.
A father afflicted by untimely mourning makes an image of his child so swiftly taken, and now he honours as a God what yesterday had only been a dead man, bequeathing initiations to his dependents. Then in the course of time the godless custom hardens, and is observed by law and, by command and princes, the carved images receive worship.
Of those who lived too far away to be honoured in person men would make a portrait from a distance and produce a visible image of the king they honoured, meaning, by such zeal, to flatter the absent as if he were with them. Even people who did not know him were stimulated into spreading his cult by the idealism of the artist; for the latter, doubtless wishing to please the ruler, exerted all his skill to make the likeness finer than reality and the crowd, carried away by the beauty of the work, accorded divine honours to him whom only recently they had honoured as a man. And this became the pitfall for life, that men, whether slaves to misfortune or princely power, should have bestowed the incommunicable name on sticks and stones.

On the Origins of the world And thus when the world had come into being, it distractedly erred at all times. For all men upon earth worshiped the spirits (demons) from the creation to the consummation - both the angels of righteousness and the men of unrighteousness. Thus did the world come to exist in distraction, in ignorance, and in a stupor. They all erred, until the appearance of the true man.

Mark 4:22 “For there is nothing hid, except to be made manifest; nor is anything secret, except to come to light. If any man has ears to hear, let him hear.”

Gospel of Thomas 2 Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All.

The OT prophesied of a Messiah coming in the last days, the Dead Sea Scrolls and Nag Hammadi texts also. I believe the NT is also prophesying about Jesus coming in the last days (for the first time). There are so many other reasons to cast doubt on the Jesus of 2,000 years ago (which really can’t be ignored). This includes:

· Not a single historical mention of Jesus during his whole life (around 4BC-30AD). Not by Romans or by Jews, not by believers or by unbelievers, not during his entire lifetime. Surely someone would have noticed and jotted something down.

· When Christianity began there were a number of uncertainties and disagreements about the historical Jesus, and some Gnostic groups claimed that Jesus had not come in the flesh at all and that he was spiritual.

· Why did it take so long for the gospels to be finally written after the supposed life of Jesus?

· One of the oddest facts about the NT is the fall of Jerusalem (70CE), which was never mentioned once in the NT. If the gospels had been written after this, like most scholars believe, the authors could have used this as history verifying the prophesies of Jesus.

· In Paul’s writings, there isn’t a single mention of the historical story of Jesus.

· Paul said that there were some Christians preaching another gospel to the one they were preaching but how could that be possible only a few years after the supposed crucifixion.

· Luke 2:2 says Jesus was born during a census-not likely that the Romans would require the whole population of the whole country to be involved in a census, let alone the whole world.

· No historical evidence of the city of Nazareth. The Jews’ minor objection to the Christian Messiah was the fact he had been unsuccessful.

· Jesus says “there are some standing here who will not taste death at all until they see the kingdom of God has come with power (Mark 9:1) (the next generation did not see the kingdom of God come).

· There were many messianic prophecies that Jesus had failed to fulfill, so this may be why early Christians therefore taught he would return for a second coming.

· There is absolutely clear evidence running through the NT documents that the early followers of Jesus (Nazarenes) were convinced that they were living very close to the end of the Age (NT Texts on the Imminence of the End).

I did speak personally to Wayne Dyer about Jesus coming in the last days (for the first time). He didn’t say much about it. I hope you have an open mind and can see and interpret the scriptures and find the truth.

I am really looking so forward with hope to talk with you further (as there is so much more).

Kindest regards,

Sandy

T. A. D., or, Who is Jesus Now?

Neville Goddard often said that if when you hear the words God, Lord, or Jesus, you think in your mind of some human form, you have the wrong God. Jesus, or Eashoa (Aramaic), is the life-giving quality of the Ineffable's powers. It is what we become of--God is the embodiment of HIM (see John 1:1 Alexander). And that is what He is now. The physical body was and is a temporary assigned duty He fulfilled and utilizes: He rose from among the dead as a life-giving spirit. That very same spirit is in us. He did works to prove He was God. We are to do the very same works to prove that...

Satan's Lie is that we, SEPARATE FROM GOD, could be like Him; The Lie is not that we can be like Him, but that we are separate

From www.thegospelcoalition.org: "The first heinous lie is that we have the capacity to be like God."

From me: The second heinous lie is that we do not have the capacity to be like God.

The first lie implied that we are separate from God. The second is the bold-faced lie that we are separate from God. Don't you believe it. Satan is the ignorance of what we are. The "nothing" the Eternal creates from is Itself, the No-thing. No-thing became us and everything else. How? It is conscious, and It imagines. The No-thing becomes what It imagines--that is what the title YHWH means: "He becomes." It has imagined us. He is what we are. What we imagine like the No-thing becomes. This is to get us over the ignorance.

The No-thing ASSUMES that what It imagines...is, and what It imagined becomes...of Itself! The Eternal has the power of creative or causative imagination--Its assumption. Assumption is the only thing that makes the Law of Attraction work; its working is causation, not attraction. When it works, you have found Him, God, to be your own, wonderful, human imagination. Do not believe the Lie. Imagining is a loaded gun. What we assume, wittingly or unwittingly, becomes our experience. THAT is God's speech to us (and note that it is coming from within). Listen and learn. He is fine-tuning us to be His Manifestation, a continuous flow of the cycle, with us being Him.

Al-lo-hiem: That Is What YOU Are --"(The Ineffable) Over The Flames"

Al is the Hebrew word for 'over' (Strong's 5921). Per Alexander, Al-lo-hiem means "Over the Flames." What is over the flames? The power and authority of the Ineffable No-thing. I read Elohim as (The Ineffable ) Over The Flames. THAT is what He says we are (Psalm 82:6). We are making our worlds. Cannot not, for we are stuck being Al--lo-hiem. We are not "like" God, little gods, other gods, baby gods, or separate gods. We are just ignorant, individual bits of (The Ineffable) Over The Flames. The Ineffable has gone away from our consciousness that we might overcome the ignorance and become like Him--the rest of whom we are. What is the ignorance? Not knowing that we are Him, or rather, that He is us, and THEREFORE we are Him. There is a big slice of humble pie in that. Submit, listen, and obey. There is no room for 2 Timothy 3 or 2 Thessalonians 2 in this. We are not like God or little gods separate from God; we are just Him.

Edit: Elohim could be "(The Power) Over the Flames," or, "(The Love) Over the Flames."

How about Elohim = "(The Power and Love) Over the Flames"? I.e., the energy and the intention there.

A Little Correction To Neville Goddard, John 8:21-29 Alexander, Annotated

Neville was not wrong, but his Bible was. Not much, but I think Victor Alexander has better translated the ancient Aramaic than the translators did the Greek. The traditional interpretation of John 8:21-29 is WAYYYYY different from what Jesus said and from what I believe He meant. Jesus is the Light who shows us the oneness of God, that the whole kit-and-caboodle is one whole. To not accept this is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, which don't work...FOREVER! As long as a person holds to a separate from God view, he or she dies in their sin--the biggie--and cannot reconcile with God.

21. Jesus told them again, "I am going, and you will search for me, [but] you shall die in your sins. And where I go, you cannot go there."
22. The Jews said, "Why, is he going to kill himself, that he says where I go, you cannot come?"
23. He told them, "You are from below, and I am from above. You are from this world* (universe); I am not born of this world* (universe).

That is, Jesus is the Light who shows us that WE are the ONE. Neville catches that Jesus is not saying that He is God, the Great I AM. Neville quotes verse 24: "Unless ye (i.e., you personally, the one who hears Jesus) believe that I (YOU!, not Jesus) am He (God, whom we are one with), you die in your sins," (parentheses mine) for there is no forgiveness for our failure to see the unity.

In the Aramaic language Jesus would have spoken, it is even more extreme. Jesus does not allow a third-person reference to God, but forces a FIRST PERSON reference: that "I" am "I" -- Eil the Almighty. Not Him, YOU!!!!

24. "I told you that you will die in your sins. [Unless] you believe that I am I, you shall die in your sins." (By the way, I read mostly without the shalls and wills, as the ancient Hebrew had no future tense. -- See intro to Young's Literal Translation of the Bible.)

That "I" (me) am "I" (the "I AM"--FIRST PERSON)! Did they get it? Niet. 25. The Jews said, "Who [do you think] you are?!" Jesus told them, "Even though from the beginning I have been telling you [this]. I have to allow that Jesus could be saying that He had been telling them of the oneness from the beginning of His time at the end of the Season of Grace, but I see Him saying it from His being the Beginning in Genesis 1:1, "AS the Beginning, the Son of God creates the heavens and the earth" (Alexander). Since before the beginning of time, the idea of separation between God and Creation has been blaspheme. And then we did it. Stop it.

26. "I [still] have a great [deal] to tell you [in] condemning you; except who sent me is True, and these [things] I have heard from Him, these are the things I speak among the people* (universe)."
27. And they did not know that he was telling them about the Father.

That we are HIM, as "I."

28. Jesus told them again, "When you honor* (raise up) the Son of Man, then you shall observe that I am I, and nothing of my own self I do, except that which was taught me [by] my Father, only of that I speak.

When we "raise up" the Son of Man, it is not on a pole of crucifixion. Nor is it recognition or honor of Jesus as the Son of God. I believe John is making reference to what he says Jesus said to Nicodemus in John 3: 14,

13. "No human [being] goes up to heaven, except the one who comes down from heaven, the Son of Man who was in heaven.*
14. "And just as Moses lifted the darkness by the light of life, this is how you should glorify* (lift up) the Son of Man.
15. "So that every human [being] who believes in him does not [go to] oblivion, except that they may have life everlasting* (to [the end of] the universe).

We are to lift OURSELVES up from the darkness by listening to and believing the Light of Life, Jesus Christ, who gives us Sons of Man the power to become Sons of God. That is the program here, isn't it?

29. "And who sent me is [always] with me, and my Father, since I always* (in every season) do the thing that glorifies* (adorns) him."

Here is the circle back again, the oneness of it all: the Father sends me and is in Me; I do His actions ("Christ"), and as I do them, I am the Father. In this He is pleased. He does NOT share His glory with another...if we are HIM.

Are You Deficient?

God is transcendent. He is everything from top to bottom. He can exercise creative power at any point. This whole thing is His bailiwick, a living organism. We boast that He has touched, even inhabited us. How much and how early can He touch, inhabit, exercise life-giving power upon a person? To what extent can He transcend? As symbolic as Jesus Christ may have been in the pens of the Bible's authors, I have every reason to believe that there was and is a definite, physical human being Jesus Christ...just like me. He, and I do mean He, appeared in my physical hearing, as He has in many millions of other people's hearing. He has appeared physically visually to many. That He exists, has transcendent power (Elohim), becomes (YHWH), and acts is assumed in the Bible. The 1st John 4 test is not for me; it is for others' bills of goods, their "spirit":

"Every spirit that professes that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, is from God. And every spirit that does not profess that Jesus came in the flesh is not from God" (1 John 4:2, 3 Alexander).

What I am tested on--what EVERY CHRISTIAN IS TESTED ON--is whether or not I understand that Jesus Christ is in ME, that there is no separation. The person who does not fully recognize this for his or her self is "deficient": "For even though he was crucified forcibly, except he was resurrected by his Godly power. We are also forced alongside of him, except we live with him by the power of God that is in you. Your soul will be fortified, if you hold fast in Him through faith. Your soul will be healed, or did you not realize that He, Jesus Christ, is in you? And if not, you are deficient." (2 Corinthians 13:4, 5 Alexander, emphases mine). You are deficient if you believe that Christ is separate, divided from, other than you. That is the weird thing: it keeps cycling around back to you. Christ is in me; Christ is what the Father does; I do His Christ actions; therefore I am the Father, and Christ is in Me.

What is Christ doing in you? Or better yet, what are you doing with Christ in you?

What Do You Say To Confused Believers?

Anonymous 11:36 raises the question of what we who hold to Neville Goddard's view of God and Christ might share in response to inquiries by Christians who hold to more traditional views. One can, of course, take Neville's own advice to just leave them alone. Their eventual enlightenment and awakening is predestined, and to confuse them before they are ready is only a disservice to them.

There are those who really want to know, however, what is the reason for the hope that is within us, and they deserve some sort of answer (on the condition they do not have ropes and a bunch of sticks). My response is more along the lines of a confession and an invitation: "I found that my 'God,' for all I knew about Him, was too small. He is so much more than just an uncaused Cause, over there somewhere else. I couldn't leave it at that. I wanted to know more about the real thing. I found that He is immediate, here, and real. John chapter one expands about the eternal Jesus BEFORE focusing on our limited Jesus. I saw that the limited Jesus is an illustration of the unlimited. We have to see Him, and then look up at the bigger picture--the (...?) Itself, asking "Where are the connections? What are the correlations? What ARE You?"

It is my experience that He wants to teach. He (It) wants us to know. What else would there be a Bible for? The Word is an explanation of God, and it is addressed to our imagination--where He has the power to work. He speaks in insights; I listen. He shows; I see. John says, "One must believe that Christ came in the flesh." What is that? His flesh apart from all others, our flesh, or the "flesh" of all Creation? Is it not odd, if it is His flesh alone, that the test of faith in Second Corinthians 13:5 is our flesh, not His? (Thus implying that we have misread 1 John 4. Take another look at the implications in John's prologue.) And if it is ours, where is He? What do we have IN us that might be Him? Where do we find a living, dynamic connection with the ineffable, living Word of God? Where do we see Him, hear Him, taste and feel Him? For myself, I speak to Him in my imagination. That is my channel to Him, and from Him to me. When I say that God is my imagination, I know that He is far more than that! It is just that He has imagined everything, and there, in my imagination, is my conscious link to Him.

I have to interject in this discussion one essential point in response to Anonymous' question: No, it is not all right to believe that Jesus' coming in the flesh was His flesh alone. I cannot imagine what the ineffable (...?) might be, but the doctrine of Its being "wholly other" SEPARATE AND DIVIDED FORM US is the worst of all blasphemes. The whole thrust of the Word of God is that THERE IS NO SEPARATION. As weird and incomprehensible as it may be, GOD says He is one--us included. The Wholly Other...is also us. I do not know how that can be, but He says it is. Who am I to believe? I am going to go with Him.

Has the Word become a limited human? He certainly has in me. And He has a word for us: "Come on, let's go!" Come on, let's go.

There Exists A Spiritual World With No Separation Or Division Creating A Physical World Of Continuity, Consistency, And Connectedness: The One Thing We Just Do Not Get

The whole point of there being no separation or division in the elements of spiritual Reality is that there is, actually, no separation or division here, either, in their manifestation. There is no division in the Godhead, which incorporates everything. We are individual bits, but we are all connected. God expands from within. Faith is "no separation." "The just shall live by the belief there is no separation or division in the ineffable (..?), that God is one." Are you listening, Israel?

The other day I responded to a question set forth by Anonymous 11:36, and I am not satisfied with my answer. I might not be much of a theologian, but I am enough of one to recognize that in discussing Jesus we are quibbling about fantasies. Fantasies about Jesus, the Life-giver/ Yah-saving-us, provide illustrations of God's actions. I am not saying that Jesus Christ was not or is not real, or that He was not a corporal human. Was Christ "in the flesh" as an individual man, or was He "in the flesh" of a community? Or better yet, was not the ;Logos of John's prologue also the Beginning Son of God (Genesis 1:1) who became everything? Christ is "in the flesh" of all matter: It is the Allaha (Aramaic for God) who reveals Him (John 1:18).

Spiritual reality has structure, though It is one. There is the divine, ontic Reality, and there is discussion on our level about it. We have to translate what the Bible says about God into the realities of Its ("His") structure. "God" is the action of the ineffable (...?)'s Consciousness; i.e., Its imagination. The Ineffable's imagination, though one, is broken up into gazillions of bits, each doing Its thing. We have this body we utilize, this life we fantasize, experiential states, billions of years old conscii who guide us, tubes to connect us, destinies to express, wisdom to manifest--I do not know, really, how to describe all the expressed structure of the invisible Reality, except to say It is the No-thing we are growing up in. The No-thing is the only real thing.

What I want to get across to everyone is that the ineffable (...?)--Its consciousness, Its imagination, and Its manifestation--are all one. (That is T'lah Qnu-meh in the ancient Aramaic: the Father AND the Son AND the Holy Spirit.) The idea that there is separation or division within It or without It is heresy--the greatest enemy of God, and basic Christianity. (What did Satan really imply to Eve?) The (...?) has the power to become what It imagines: It becomes power; Its power becomes matter; Its matter becomes all "things"; and those things are all "IT." US, TOO! That is the Holy Spirit's testimony. The "blaspheme of the Holy Spirit" is not believing it! Take another look at what we really are, and DO NOT CALL GOD A LIAR!!

Response to Comment by Anonymous 11:36 on Test of Believers by Bible, Pharisaical Fundamentalists, and Neville Goddard

I hope I have not obfuscated the point here. Anonymous 11:36 (I believe) asked a good question I am always wrestling with. I hope he or she likes the way I have worked it out for myself. I did some minor editing--mistakes are mine.
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Hi Daniel. One thing that has bugged me after leaving churchianity for the way that Neville Goddard showed us is the test of Christ as per 1 John 4:1-6. Neville emphasized that Jesus Christ is our own wonderful human imagination. The voice of the Pharisee in my imagination cries: "Hear that? 'Jesus Christ is our imagination'?! Denying the physical body, the physical person, the very real person who lived in the Middle-East during the Roman times? False spirit! Spirit of error! Neville Goddard fails the 1 John 4 test so easily!"

The way I reconcile this matter is by seeing it this way: as Christ is my imagination, Christ is me as well. And since I AM a real person on this earthly plane with a physical body, so Christ is come in the flesh. I AM Christ. I am in the flesh. Christ is in the flesh. Nothing wrong with Neville Goddard.

Daniel, I am curious as to how you view 1 John 4. Perhaps you have a far better case of explaining this very important biblical test for who Jesus Christ is. Neville would ask people to test Christ by using their imagination to manifest something in the physical plane. However, I would like to know if there is a way we can test "Neville's Christ" against 1 John 4. Pharisees are adamant that the only way to test a spirit is by 1 John 4. So I seek your view on this matter. After all, as a theologian, you would have the "perfect blade" to do battle with Pharisees!

Thank you very much.
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Thank you, Anonymous, for a most excellent question. For Christians and Jews, this is the biggie. For those unfamiliar with Christian doctrine, there is the belief that that facet of the Eternal God, the Logos or "Word" of God, the "Creator," descended into the form of a human zygote and was born in Bethlehem as the Son of Man at the end of the Season of Grace with all the limitations of a normal human infant. Any half-decent seminary library will have entire aisles dedicated to the belief, with shelves labeled Theology of the New Testament, The Gospel of Jesus Christ, Christ in the Old Testament, Trinity, Incarnation, Bodily Resurrection, Atonement, Justification, Redemption, Propitiation, Soteriology, Eschatology, and a host of other subsets of the institutes of the Christian religion--all hinged on this one essential point, Ground Point Zero of all Christian philosophy.

Your question, Anonymous, is two. The test of the Pharisaical Fundamentalists is whether one believes Christ was the unique, one-and-only incarnation of the Son of God. Answer yes, you go to heaven; answer no, you go to hell--no ifs, ands, or buts. You and I are on the fence on this one, but you can see, I believe, that this is not the same test as 2 Corinthians 13:5, which is whether or not Christ is in us.

From Neville Goddard's lecture, "Test Yourselves," September 25, 1967:

"In his 2nd letter to the Corinthians, Paul is speaking to the whole world when he says: "Examine yourselves to see if you are holding to the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not realize that Jesus Christ is in you? - unless, of course, you fail to meet the test. I hope you will discover that we have not failed."

I am on the fence as to how Christ was incarnate, because He transcends. He transcends to touch me, to order my life and my world, to enlighten and illumine me, etc., etc. Even if He transcended to enliven a woman's ovum or transcended to devote an earnest man, that would not mean He was the Christ who is in the New Testament, which is an ILLUSTRATION of Him. The real guy--or affected community--was what it was, and the picture of the transcendent affectation is just that, a testimonial picture about it.

You, know, Anonymous, that there were two to two-and-a-half decades between the supposed time of Christ and the first writings about Him. We have literally NOTHING from the era of the actual event. Except the test. I READ IT BOTH WAYS, and I have absolutely no problem with being on both sides of the fence. That the dynamic Power and Wisdom of the Consciousness of the Ineffable which Gods us became a human AND devoted that or another earnest human is well within Its transcendent powers. And, as you formulate in your justification above, Jesus Christ is us in us. I think Job agreed:

"I know my Redeemer [ever] lives, and at the latter day on earth stands; and after [worms] this body have consumed, yet in my flesh I Eloah see: whom I, even I, see upon my side. Mine eyes see Him--stranger, now, no more: [For this] my inmost soul with longing waits" (Job 19:25-27, Companion Bible margin; my take on Bullinger's take).

Made me cry. "In my flesh I Eloah see." Me in my flesh, or Him in my flesh? I think it is the unique, one-and-only Guy is ALSO in us, as us. This is just His development course, a process He is going through. He is us becoming Him. All the blame was on Him, the resolution of which our inmost souls with longing wait. Let's look also at 1st John Chapter Four (Alexander):

1. [My] beloved, do not believe all spirits, except choose between them to see if they are from God* (or, except become spirit choosers if from God they are). Because there emerged many false prophets from the world.
2. In this way you will know the Spirits of God. Every spirit that professes that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, is from God.
3. And every spirit that does not profess that Jesus came in the flesh is not from God, except this is of the false messiah, whom you have heard will come, and now he is in the world already.
4. But you came from God His children, and shall conquer them, since He is Supreme* (also Father and Creator) who is in you, greater than the one who is in the world.
5. And these who are from the world, because of that they speak of the world, and people* (the world) listen to them.
6. But we who are from God and the one who knows God hears us and the one who is not born of God does not hear us. By this then we learn about the Spirit of Truth and the spirit of oblivion.

"Every spirit that professes that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, is from God...You came from God His children, and shall conquer them, since He is Supreme* (also Father and Creator) who is in you...Did you not realize that He, Eashoa the Messiah, is in you? And if not, you are deficient" (1 John 4:2,4; 2 Cor. 13:5 Alexander). Christ might only ever have come IN MAN'S FLESH. OUR flesh. A literal, historical Christ not common to us I do not know, but I believe because I know the Transcender. I am not one to doubt Him. If He says He did, He did. How, I do not need to know. His immediacy in me, THAT I know. The Kingdom of God is within me, and it has to do with attitudes and imagination. It is all consciousness, invisible power and thought...and Him.

No Third Person Jesus: A Oneness Pentecostal Perspective

This is a short theological rant. People keep thinking of Jesus as a separate person distinct from the Father and from us. That is heretical. I am trying to establish that Jesus is a distinct dynamic in the nature of the Ineffable (...?). The Ineffable "Being" is one no-thing. We are not going to get our heads around that, not anytime soon, anyway. The Ineffable is one NO-THING. A no-thing is not anything we can conceptualize. Although the Ineffable is the one and only No-thing, in It and as It exist multiple dynamics. Considering these dynamics separately is convenient and perhaps necessary for us, but the separation of them from one another and from us is artificial. Simultaneously the Ineffable is all, and in the Ineffable all exist in full integration. The Ineffable's "persons" are different dynamics going on within the SAME No-thing Being. None is separate in the sense of divided from. All are parts of a single, organic whole.

It is apparent that the ineffable No-thing is conscious, that It imagines. We do not know how or why that is even possible, but that conscious' intelligence is powerful to Its own becoming what It assumes that It is. The No-thing is dreaming on steroids, Its dreams manifesting for a moment alive, moment after moment. We call it time; It calls it Eashoa, the Life-giver. That is YHWH, "He Becomes." The Ineffable by this dynamic has also become us and all Creation. Now, which one has become separate from and not a part of the ineffable No-thing? Nothing has, because nothing can. Each is Its existence. The No-thing is all there is: It does not have a remote control. To say that Creation is separate is to say that there are Two. The Ineffable does not divide; It manifests. That is just to take FORM. Its elbows bend inwards; It takes care of the INNER man, the inner Ineffable.

The first thing I learned of God is that He is transcendent. I was looking in my mind's eye at what supposedly was Jesus Christ as a spirit. It wasn't, and the real one transcendently opened my mind's eye to see that. His power effectively BRIDGED from Him to me. Jesus' power also bridged from Him to me when He spoke AUDIBLY into the physical nervous system in my brain. I watched as He transcendently lengthened my arm but a bit, but He DID. I took me awhile, but I finally figured out that the bridging was not, and is not, from without, but is from within. All of the ineffable No-thing is within me...and you, and we in Him. Life is the bridge in effect, the Ineffable's becoming.

How was the dynamic Jesus Christ, Eashoa Msheekha, at the end of the Season of Grace? How did It transcend? Was it into being a physical baby, or into a man, or into understanding of what is within men? I do not know; I was not there. DID He? Yes! DOES He? Yes. We cannot know the Ineffable besides Its consciousness. We cannot know the Holy Spirit, the thought of that consciousness by which It gets things done, apart from Its dynamic of power, which is YHWH/ Eashoa/ Jesus Christ. Our only door to the ineffable No-thing is Its Life-giving dynamic, Jesus Christ. Do you want to see Him? Every next moment is Him.