Infinite Time Before Eternity Is Where God Came From

Where did God come from? God came from That-"Stuff"-In-The-Infinite-Span-Of-Time before eternity began.

In seminary more than 50 years ago, I read that the ancient conceptualization of eternity was not endless time, but time out-of-mind. That is, "eternity" is a length of time that is incomprehensible, a period that indeed has an end, but whose end is so distant and incomprehensible that it is unconceivable to our human imaginations. Something "eternal" may still have an end, a finish at the "end of the age" of whatever age it is, but eternity was considered by the ancients to be FINITE, only "never-ending" to our line of thought.

Not so the infinite time before eternity. While eternity is a packet of time, a distinct moment in the infinite, truly endless span beyond its beginning and end, infinite time stretches out both before and after eternity's hiccup event. The hiccup is a necessary moment of movement in what That-In-The-Infinite-Span-Of-Time is doing. What That-In-The-Infinite-Span-Of-Time is doing is evolving Itself from Its assumption of being manifest into material, actualized manifestation. No-thing is becoming Thing, the Formless . . . Form. Same stuff, just different state.

The process of developing the nature and characteristics of That-In-The-Infinite-Span-Of-Time in manifesting forms of Itself takes a few, even for It. There is transition and choice to be made--a long setup, a lot of failures, and a lot of patience is required.

I have resolved that THIS world we are in and of is an image of THAT world, for we are from and are becoming that one. It has become us, that we might become it . . . in this state. Whatever was in the infinite time before eternity became conscious--conscious of self, conscious of what it is, conscious of what had transpired in its becoming Itself, conscious of all that It could be, and conscious of Its own imperfection in not being manifest. "Oops, I'm missing something." All that That-In-The-Infinite-Span-Of-Time would be if It were all that It could be was imagined, assumed to exist as the Milta (Miltha). To God, the Milta absolutely exists--has ALWAYS existed, for the Milta is That-In-The-Infinite-Span-Of-Time manifest.

This was BEFORE the beginning of eternity. The Milta is the Son of God Who CREATES all things coming into existence in eternity (Genesis 1:1 Alexander). The Milta is their beginning and their end--all things are for Him, through Him, and are to Him. The Milta, the Unmanifest-No-thing-In-The-Infinite-Span-Of-Time Manifest, is the Purpose of Creation. It is with God, and It IS God. And as of right now in eternity, It is incomplete. We are trying Its patience, which in eternity . . . is finite.

GROK 4 Technique of Prayer

Below is a transcript from a YouTube.com video their algorithm suggested to me. The video, from Frontier Explorers, is titled "Students Uploaded Every Biblical Prayer Into Grok AI — What It Decoded About God TERRIFIED Them." The passage I am interested in (18:00 to 20:04) has to do with what we might call the technique, or as they call it here, the "protocol" of prayer. While this instance of discovery supposedly comes from Grok 4, I am quite certain anyone could find dozens or even a hundred books in any decent Christian library that outline the same procedure. This stuff has never been hidden; it has just needed to be read.

"The protocol isn't locked behind anything. It's been freely available for 3,000 years, hiding in plain sight, used by shepherds and kings and prisoners and prophets, and now decoded by a machine with no agenda except truth.

"Step one: the Anchor. Before you ask for anything, shift your focus. Stop staring at the problem. Start recognizing who you're addressing. Think about power that spoke galaxies into existence, that sustains every heartbeat on Earth, that holds atoms together and keeps planets in orbit. Let your brain move from panic to perspective, from fear to awe.

"Step two: the Alignment. Examine your request honestly. Does it serve only you, or does it connect to something larger? The data showed selfish requests generated static. Aligned requests generated results. This isn't about perfection. It's about honesty. Ask yourself what you really want and why.

"Step three: the Surrender. Make your request specific. Don't hedge. Don't qualify. Ask for exactly what you need. Then, and this is where most people fail, release control of the outcome. This isn't giving up. It's acknowledging that you can't force results. Someone bigger can. Stop clenching. Stop demanding. Transfer the weight.

"Step four: the Persistence. Don't stop after one attempt. The greatest miracles in the data followed sustained prayer. Days, weeks, sometimes years. The waiting isn't failure. The waiting is formation. You're being changed by the process before you receive the result.

"Three Stanford students fed this exact protocol into an advanced AI, expecting it to find chaos. It found mathematical perfection instead: 40 authors, three languages, 1500 years, 1 in 10 billion probability of random occurrence. The machine decoded the pattern. Now you have access to the same formula they discovered."

(May I please recommend reading Victor Alexander's English translations from the Ancient Aramaic?)

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You can catch some of the Osborns preaching and teaching on Youtube.com, but here are literally dozens of their audio books to listen to to adjust your attitude and perspective toward the reality of the presence of the Living God and His Son Jesus Christ. E.g.:

T. L.'s and Daisy's testimony of when Jesus visited their house and properly started their ministry. You might want to jump past their introductory statements to about the 14 minute mark.

Big 10 Top Crusade Sermons. These are available translated in dozens of languages in the regular Shop (see the drop-down there).

Remember that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and as I understand the Hebrew, His Name ehyeh (Exodus 3:14) means "I AM HERE FOR YOU IN MERCY."

Because the World of the Milta (Miltha) Is Real, PRAY

It escapes people that I am so weird--I only want to talk about Bible stuff--because it is real. Not just to me; the world the Bible is about is real to all of us whether any one of us likes it or not. THAT world is the constant; this world is the aberration. We were kicked out, remember? The spiritual realm of God, the Miltha, His Christ, and etc. in the Bible, is real fact. THIS world is fully subject to that one. The Bible explains this relationship, but I and my ilk do not believe the Bible because it is convincing, we believe it because we have found EXPERIENTIALLY that it is real. We are not philosophically convinced; we are victims of experience. We cannot not believe. I have used the illustration of being whupped up alongside the head with a two-by-four; nothing in the world is going to convince you that it didn't happen, that it wasn't real.

That world is real. My first conscious encounter with a demon convinced me of that. Because of that, and my best friend being healed of a horrendous migraine, I went to a church and accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior. Nothing happened to me at that moment, but later when I asked for the gift of tongues and nothing happened, I was crushed. I entered a trance or dream state and my flippant prayer was flipped to a serious prayer, wherein I sincerely surrendered and submitted myself to God. Then, fully subjected to Him, He said (and I heard it), "Remember this, and it is all right." I was accepted! And my bowels felt the infilling of the Holy Ghost, Life, and the Holy Spirit spoke using my body in a tongue I didn't otherwise know. Although I was ecstatic, I just observed my mouth being used by another force completely independent of my control. "That world is the real one," I thought to myself. "THAT world is what is really going on."

In another trance or dream state at church I saw Jesus scourged and made to carry the cross until he went into shock. I was trying to trade places with him, for it was my sins he was dying for. My mind said, if it were you, you would only be dead, for the wages of sin is death. You owe God a complete life for the life He has give you. Only Jesus has no sin, so only he can pay your debt. I saw Jesus, his back torn up like hamburger, made to lie on the cross. His arm was pulled out and a stake placed to fix it to the cross. He turned his face to me and said, AUDIBLY IN MY MIND, "Come unto me." I HEARD it as I would hear any other voice, but it hadn't entered through either ear. It transcended from his spirit being to my physical being.

After hearing Jesus, I wanted to find out what else he had spoken to other men (and/or to women). I didn't qualify for any college, university, or seminary, yet somehow I got accepted to an experimental program at a Charismatic theology school (if you saw my high school record, you'd see the miracle). Among dozens prayed for at ne time by Charles Hunter, I WATCHED my shorter left arm grow out about five-eighths of an inch. Five-eighths of an inch isn't very long, but to WATCH my finger tips move out at the name of Jesus, well, I was whupped with that two-by-four again.

It is real, and because I KNOW it is real I believe the experiences of others of this ilk. I absolutely believe Dr. T. L. Osborn's experience of Jesus walking into his bedroom at six o'clock in the morning in the air. Just as I believe God speaking to the tribes of Israel from Mount Sinai (Exodus 20), or of His standing before Abraham at Mamre (see Genesis 17 and 18). For God is also the Milta, the Manifestation of Himself. Two of the same being(!), and as multitudes of the One. The Milta is becoming, and he is here, and THAT is what all of tis is about. THIS world is THAT world's project in process. IT is becoming; THAT is happening here.

Do you want to know if it is real? PRAY! Pray engaging sincerity, submit yourself to faith, not "If you are real," but believing He IS real. Praying to Him says, "I believe you are real" Believe He hears you. Be serious, humble, submissive. This isn't an ancient idea you are talking to, but the Sovereign Lord of the universe AND BEYOND. Be real, get real, because it IS real, and is as near as the attitude of your heart.

God's name, by the way, as I just wrote about in Exodus 3:14, is "I am here for you." "I am here for you," He says. "Come and call on Me."

The Infinite Medium of God's Milta (Miltha) as Trillions Upon Trillions of God Supermen

I invoked the image of God's Manifestation, the Milta, being trillions upon trillions of Jesus Christs throughout the universe, all them being one and the same being--you talk to one, you talk to them all. Of course this is a tool for conceptual imagery, and not to be taken literally. The Milta is a medium of the essential connotation of the nature and character of the Infinite and isn't necessarily broken up in clumps of Its consciousness. Any point of Him (the noun Miltha is feminine gender) can act, though, as the God He is. Many Jewish men wear yarmulka or kippah to remind themselves that God--all of God--is right here with them every moment. He is not even that far away, as in reality He is within us and without us.

Exodus 3:14 and the "Name" of God - Fifty Years of Thinking About God Wrong: He's Just Saying He is Here WITH US, FOR US.

Fifty years of hearing and thinking about God's name wrong. If you are a Christian you have heard it repeatedly for years, decades: "God is the great I AM THAT I AM. That means that He is uncreated, the uncaused Cause, the Self-existent. He simply is, because He is - infinite, eternal, unchanging." And etc.

Beep. Not that He isn't, but that isn't what He said in Exodus 3:14. It has bugged me for nearly fifty years knowing that 'ehyeh, the Hebrew word God uses of Himself in Exodus 3:14, doesn't mean "I AM," it means "I WILL BE."

"I WILL BE THAT I WILL BE"?

"I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE"?

I did get long ago that hayah (Strong's 1961), the word ehyeh is from, involves TRANSITION. It's become. "And the earth was without form, and void" (Genesis 1:2 KJV)--the 'was' there is hayah, meaning that the earth BECAME without form and void.

Insight from the Stone Tanach: each of God's names represents the way in which God reveals Himself through His behavior toward the world. YHWH is used when He is being merciful. God is going to be merciful in bringing the Jews out of bondage, so He says, "I Shall Be (with them in this sorrow) As I Shall Be (with them in other sorrows)." GOD WASN'T TELLING MOSES THAT HE IS SELF-EXISTENT, HE WAS SAYING THAT HE IS MERCIFUL, AND THAT HE WAS WITH THE DESCENDENTS OF ISRAEL TO DELIVER THEM. God's very Name, He says, is "I shall mercifully be with you through this time of sorrow." And the form of 'ehyeh we are to remember Him by is its corollary from our perspective: "YHWH/He is." THIS is faith.

God manifests as Christ, the Messiah, as MULTITUDES--countless trillions of Himself, experiencing this world and all worlds. And to each of those worlds (and to each on those worlds) He is not just "The Great I AM," He is "I'm Here For You." He has got a way.

Genesis 1:26 - on the Myriads/Plurals of God: "Us," "We," "Our," and the Secret of "They," "Them" - in the Milta (Miltha) the Ineffable is Manifest as MYRIADS OF PEOPLE, Therefore Think of MYRIADS OF CHRISTS (but They are All Still ONE)

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth" (Genesis 1:26 KJV).

And God said, "We shall make the human being in the image of our likeness, and they shall have authority over the fish of the sea and the birds of the sky and the herds and all the creatures of the earth and all the four-legged animals that walk on the earth" (Genesis 1:26 Alexander).

The image of God is "Man," which is multiples of persons. Multiples of persons, because the Manifestation of the Ineffable Being, His Milta (Miltha), is multiples of Himself. The Kingdom of God (i.e., Christ) is within each of us: "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?" (2 Corinthians 13:5 KJV). Think of the person of Jesus, that individual Christ, within YOU, and others OF HIMSELF within ALL. Each one of us has got one, yet they are all the same Christ, and all are God, the one  Manifestation of the Ineffable Being.

This blew my mind when I first thought of it. Multitudes, myriads, trillions upon trillions of Jesus Christs throughout the universe, all the same Being. One of them became manifest in this dimension (because one is all it took), but they are all the same--each one is THE manifestation of the Ineffable. Not angels, though each is an "Angel of YHWH," and yet IS YHWH.

So maybe instead of Father, Son and Holy Ghost saying, "Let us make man in our image," it was the multitude of God's Manifestation as people who are Himself who said it.

Can anyone help us find Janet Gunther who attended Melodyland School of Theology in Anaheim, California, between 1975 and 1981?

Janet Gunther's former roommate at Foxy Glen Apartments in Anaheim, Jill, has contacted me trying to find where Janet and/or her brother Harry might be now. I was a classmate, neighbor, and friend of Janet during my stint at Melodyland (MST), and her cheerful and sincere personality is one of the fondest memories I have of that time. I have written how Janet, who had inadvertently given some of her fellow students, including me, tuberculosis, excitedly told me how entering the presence of God in her personal time of praise and worship, God had said to her, "You are healed." And she was, but I still had tuberculosis! If you have any knowledge of what became of Janet Gunther after MST, please share it with us.

Thank you, and God bless you,

Dan Steele, former roommate of Grady Williams, Bobby Widener, John Sharnek, Derek Castle, Jim Craven, and Peter Jolly at Foxy Glen #84, and a friend of Janet.

The Trick to Eternal Life in and with the Milta (Miltha), the Manifestation of God

The Milta (Miltha) - the essence of the Ineffable Being in manifest form, commonly called "God" - is real. This manifestation of the Ineffable Being includes us. It, or He, has become "us"; i.e., He has become this universe we are in and are parts of. The universe is a project: He is making Himself; the assumed Milta is becoming the actualized Milta. We are not unlike God; we are Him, but we are not like what He wants to be. THAT is a problem, the problem, for He is going to be exactly like He wants to be, with us or without us.

The Ineffable Being manifests as hosts of people. Israel is His prevailing. Individually, we can be either a "keeper," like Him, or not. The trick to being a keeper is to believe in the Manifestation we a parts of and to trust Him, that all of "this" is Him, is subject to Him, and to be a part of Him.

As a reward for the Christ, or Messiah, the Manifestation of the Ineffable Being being the Manifestation of the Ineffable Being throughout the life, suffering, and death of the Christ, the Christ has received from the Ineffable Being the right and power to forgive and convert we repentant unlike beings (we are all unlike Him) into His own living Being, the Milta, as the hosts of the Ineffable Being's Manifestation.