Daniel 9:24-27 and The Lost Messiah (Moses' and Neville Goddard's Point Altogether): How It Is That No One Can Return And Rebuild Jerusalem But You
I have been asked what to do while waiting for a manifestation to arrive, especially if the gestation was long and the present situation negative--if the present situation was not just negative, but one that made you "crumble in fear." Remembering the many anecdotes I have heard of people who called upon Jesus in times of great distress and were miraculously delivered, I replied that in such a threatening situation one should call upon his or her inner Messiah for protection and deliverance.
As a Christian Pentecostal I have a lot of faith in that guy, which is problematic for anyone who does not understand what I mean by inner Messiah. The idea of an inner Messiah is, admittedly, a proverbial "can of worms." Everyone seems fine with the idea of Christ being in us as the power of God and the wisdom of God, but as the Messiah -- David? Everyone is like, "Wait, what?"
So please let me go over it again. The Ineffable, the Source of everything, has a consciousness, an imagination, and that imagination is Its image and Its manifestation. And it is our "God." Consciousness is spirit and no "thing," but it is the stuff that everything is made out of, as it, the intelligence of the Ineffable, has the power to become that which it believes it is. That is how I understand it, anyhow: Adam becomes Eve, and Eve becomes Cain and Abel. The intelligence or spirit "flips" into being what it believes it is, its "desire," and that "flip" is its being "sent": God the Son sent by God the Father. Really, it is all one thing, and we are both.
What we need to remember is that there is a purpose for all this; we are not flipping from God into man just to get our jollies. We were not, as God, what we needed to be. We are God becoming that. The part that we are conscious of is the Sent, and it, unfortunately, is in an amnesia ignorant of being the Sender. Our purpose, as I see it, is to become the Source. Yeah, the really big guy, the Ineffable. This is where Messiah comes into play.
The Ineffable has a particular nature. We share that with It, but we were not complete in Its likeness. We lacked a certain individuality. "Beloved" -- David, the Messiah -- is what we do to become that likeness. We are the Father of David, the Messiah. Messiah is a state of God; it is God acting to make us into Its image, to establish Israel, God-ruling-as-man, in the land. Our life in this world is "the land." We are looking for His nature in our individuality.
UNFORTUNATELY, SADLY, REGRETFULLY, part and parcel to our becoming like the Ineffable is our free choice to do so . . . or not. The Christ -- Messiah -- is within us regardless, but we can choose to ignore it. It is the nature of this choice that made me think of Daniel chapter 9 (as translated by Victor Alexander). You see, almost everyone familiar with the Messiah's coming thinks of him as a separate man who is going to come from somewhere else, not as a state of God within his or herself. "He has the responsibility," we like to think. "It is on him, not me." No, no, no. We have the responsibility. He no workie if we no workie, for we are the God Messiah is a state of. We have the obligation to yield and to learn and to turn our lives unto the likeness of the Ineffable. The Messiah is Its power in us to accomplish that.
Daniel chapter 9 was not pleasant news for Daniel. No, I do not think it was what he expected at all. He knew Jeremiah was told that the Jews would be held in Babylonia for seventy years. "Hey," he thought, "Time is up. The seventy years are done. We are going home now, right?"
"Yeah. Well, no, not exactly. Home, yes. But there is something bigger going on. The Jews are a sign, an illustration of The Really Big Show, and the Jews in Judaea and Jerusalem shall be the medium, its 'paint.'" And that was not necessarily good news for them. They got to employ the state of Messiah, yes, if they "got it," and to reap the consequences (!) if they didn't. They received 490 years as an "every-man" to be a sign to every man of "getting it" and "not getting it." And we, really, are no different.
Oh yes, it was a long gestation, and a very negative situation. It is not like we get to give excuses for failure. The Ineffable doesn't accept any. The only way to be like the big guy is to be like the big guy -- hell or high water. Look around; we are all in the long gestation and negative situation the Jews were a sign of!!! Cowabunga, this is IT, dudes!
The name Daniel means Eil (the Ineffable, "God") judging. God is the doer (!) of the verb portion of the word, which is 'to judge.' This is God judging; it is a demonstration of his judgment. We are given an opportunity to respond to the Messiah, or not.
Below is a translation from the ancient Aramaic (http://www.v-a.com/bible/supporters/daniel_9.htm). I also referred to Andrew Roth's comments (https://www.theref inersfire.org/seventy_weeks_of_daniel.htm), and to a Hebrew interlinear (biblehub.com/interlinear/daniel/9-24.htm). By the way, I believe both 'seven' and 'seventy' were spelled the same, but pronounced differently, thus the "seventy seventies." It should be "seventy sevens." I am waiting for Alexander to confirm. We are not looking at the numbers or doing the math in the chapter in any case. We look instead at what was done, what it was for, at the overall "big picture" for what there was to "get" from it.
Daniel 9
24. "Seventy seventies shall rest upon your nation and upon the town of your reverence,* so as the obligations may be concluded and the sins may be curtailed, so that the abominations shall be abandoned, and that they may usher in the eternal righteousness, such as the vision and the prophesies* may be fulfilled, and to the Anointed One we may commit our blessings.
25. "And you shall know and understand, from the emergence of the Manifestation, who shall return and rebuild Jerusalem, and the coming of the Messiah King, seventy sevens and seventy sixties and two; he shall return and rebuild Jerusalem, its streets and gateways, to the end of the season.
26. "And after the seventy sixties and two, the Messiah shall be killed, and [Jerusalem] shall not have him, and the holy city shall be devastated, together with the next king,* and its end shall be evacuation, and until the end of the war there shall be killing and desolation.*
27. "And the Covenant shall be deepened for many, [a period of] seven and half [the period] of seven, sacrifices and offerings shall cease to be performed,* and over the wings of evil* there shall follow the desolation,* until the killings shall cease,* and [the dead shall] rest* upon the desolation.*
*9:24.1 Lit. Ar. idiom retained: "That you revere."
*9:24.2 Lit. Ar. id.: "The Prophets."
*9:26.1 Lit. Ar. idiomatic figure of speech: "The coming king."
*9:26.2 Lit. Ar. idiomatic expression: "The cuttings of desolation."
*9:27.1 Lit. Ar. id.: "Cancelled."
*9:27.2 Lit. Ar. id.: "Filth."
*9:27.3 Lit. Ar. id.: "Throes," or "destruction."
*9:27.4 Lit. Ar. id.: "Develop."
*9:27.5 Lit. Ar. idiom retained: "Cover."
*9:27.6 [Verses 22-27] The vision explained by Gabriel to Daniel accounts for every point of the prophesy regarding the coming of the Messiah Eashoa and His Mission. There is even the prophesy regarding New Jerusalem (mentioned in the New Testament in the Book of Revelation).
My comments:
The seventy sevens are the overall span of our "death" in this forgetting, the perfect time it takes us in these "lives" to accomplish God's will for us. The nation and town of our reverence are our manifestation and consciousness in the annexed brain in our skulls, "Jerusalem." But for what? "So as the obligations (to take on the likeness) may be concluded and the sins (variations from that likeness) may be curtailed, so that the abominations (our willful acts of independence, rebellion from Its order) shall be abandoned, and that they (the concluded obligations) may usher in the Eternal Righteousness (our likeness to the Ineffable, who is "Right"), such that the visions and prophets may be fulfilled, and to the Anointed One -- the Messiah -- we may commit our blessings (gratitude).
Verses 25 thru 27 are a confusing hodge-pudge of ideas that flit back and forth:
"From the emergence of the Manifestation (from the beginning of Christ, or the awareness of Messiah in us), who shall return and rebuild Jerusalem, and the coming of the Messiah King (the final success of the Messiah state in us in making us like the Ineffable), . . . He shall return and rebuild Jerusalem, its streets and gateways." Who returns and rebuilds? Messiah. From the beginning to the end it is the Messiah, that state of God working in us who conforms us to his image. Messiah is God. The one we forgot: Abel, the one who, though "dead," still speaks. He is spirit of God within us making us "alive." God is the Messiah, and we are that God. We do not remember it very well, but there is a real guy there: omnipotent God.
He deepens the Covenant for many; but if we forget him, if we ignore this state, if we "kill" the Messiah, if we do not listen to him and adjust our lives to the character of his nature, our "Jerusalem" shall not have him and our lives will be devastated. We will have to come back here and do all this suffering of ignorance over and over until we "get it."
The point is that no one is THE Messiah, a separate guy holed-up somewhere. Messiah is a state of God's consciousness within us, like our awareness that we are a transitory state of God's spirit, Abel. We are Abel anyway, but our awareness of that has been forgotten. Messiah is awareness toward establishing Israel in this "land," our minds/these lives. 'Israel' is Eil-ruling-as-man -- in you and I and anyone who will yield to him and apply themselves toward that work. We can be Messiah and rebuild the temple to the Fulfillment, or we can forget him. God help us if we forget him. Regardless of the work we do on the "temple" -- ourselves: this man or woman -- it will all be for naught.
After the sixty-ninth week of years, the spiritual attitude of Messiah was embodied throughout Israel/Judaea. Like Daniel, the Jews had counted the years and knew that it was time for the Messiah. The Jordan Valley was rife with teachers of righteousness and devoted disciples. They altogether were the state of Messiah as King, if the Jews wanted him. All they had to do was to fulfill the obligation and take on the nature of God himself: to love the Lord their God with all their heart, mind, strength, and soul, and their neighbors as themselves.
As an illustration, they were there. But as an illustration, they showed also what happens when you say, "Yeah, well, no thanks. Not if I'm not making money out of it." The Messiah left with the his adherents, and the secularists and the religionists reaped the whirlwind they had created. We are all responsible -- obligated -- to take on God's nature of loving himself and loving his manifestation. His manifestation is not all the chattel of the world that you can get; it is loving and serving one another as we would love and serve ourselves.
The seventieth week? Long past as the illustration and ongoing as our present situation. The sacrifices of obedience and offerings of praise have ceased because Messiah is "killed" in us by our forgetting. Our lives rest upon the desolation that follows our evil . . . until the killing shall stop and we accept the Messiah within us. I guarantee you, life is a whole lot better with him than without him. Because he actually is us he is always present, and waiting for you.
Happy Messiahing.
_____________________
I apologize for not editing this as I would like. My desktop is out of commission and I will have to return later to edit and revise.
As a Christian Pentecostal I have a lot of faith in that guy, which is problematic for anyone who does not understand what I mean by inner Messiah. The idea of an inner Messiah is, admittedly, a proverbial "can of worms." Everyone seems fine with the idea of Christ being in us as the power of God and the wisdom of God, but as the Messiah -- David? Everyone is like, "Wait, what?"
So please let me go over it again. The Ineffable, the Source of everything, has a consciousness, an imagination, and that imagination is Its image and Its manifestation. And it is our "God." Consciousness is spirit and no "thing," but it is the stuff that everything is made out of, as it, the intelligence of the Ineffable, has the power to become that which it believes it is. That is how I understand it, anyhow: Adam becomes Eve, and Eve becomes Cain and Abel. The intelligence or spirit "flips" into being what it believes it is, its "desire," and that "flip" is its being "sent": God the Son sent by God the Father. Really, it is all one thing, and we are both.
What we need to remember is that there is a purpose for all this; we are not flipping from God into man just to get our jollies. We were not, as God, what we needed to be. We are God becoming that. The part that we are conscious of is the Sent, and it, unfortunately, is in an amnesia ignorant of being the Sender. Our purpose, as I see it, is to become the Source. Yeah, the really big guy, the Ineffable. This is where Messiah comes into play.
The Ineffable has a particular nature. We share that with It, but we were not complete in Its likeness. We lacked a certain individuality. "Beloved" -- David, the Messiah -- is what we do to become that likeness. We are the Father of David, the Messiah. Messiah is a state of God; it is God acting to make us into Its image, to establish Israel, God-ruling-as-man, in the land. Our life in this world is "the land." We are looking for His nature in our individuality.
UNFORTUNATELY, SADLY, REGRETFULLY, part and parcel to our becoming like the Ineffable is our free choice to do so . . . or not. The Christ -- Messiah -- is within us regardless, but we can choose to ignore it. It is the nature of this choice that made me think of Daniel chapter 9 (as translated by Victor Alexander). You see, almost everyone familiar with the Messiah's coming thinks of him as a separate man who is going to come from somewhere else, not as a state of God within his or herself. "He has the responsibility," we like to think. "It is on him, not me." No, no, no. We have the responsibility. He no workie if we no workie, for we are the God Messiah is a state of. We have the obligation to yield and to learn and to turn our lives unto the likeness of the Ineffable. The Messiah is Its power in us to accomplish that.
Daniel chapter 9 was not pleasant news for Daniel. No, I do not think it was what he expected at all. He knew Jeremiah was told that the Jews would be held in Babylonia for seventy years. "Hey," he thought, "Time is up. The seventy years are done. We are going home now, right?"
"Yeah. Well, no, not exactly. Home, yes. But there is something bigger going on. The Jews are a sign, an illustration of The Really Big Show, and the Jews in Judaea and Jerusalem shall be the medium, its 'paint.'" And that was not necessarily good news for them. They got to employ the state of Messiah, yes, if they "got it," and to reap the consequences (!) if they didn't. They received 490 years as an "every-man" to be a sign to every man of "getting it" and "not getting it." And we, really, are no different.
Oh yes, it was a long gestation, and a very negative situation. It is not like we get to give excuses for failure. The Ineffable doesn't accept any. The only way to be like the big guy is to be like the big guy -- hell or high water. Look around; we are all in the long gestation and negative situation the Jews were a sign of!!! Cowabunga, this is IT, dudes!
The name Daniel means Eil (the Ineffable, "God") judging. God is the doer (!) of the verb portion of the word, which is 'to judge.' This is God judging; it is a demonstration of his judgment. We are given an opportunity to respond to the Messiah, or not.
Below is a translation from the ancient Aramaic (http://www.v-a.com/bible/supporters/daniel_9.htm). I also referred to Andrew Roth's comments (https://www.theref inersfire.org/seventy_weeks_of_daniel.htm), and to a Hebrew interlinear (biblehub.com/interlinear/daniel/9-24.htm). By the way, I believe both 'seven' and 'seventy' were spelled the same, but pronounced differently, thus the "seventy seventies." It should be "seventy sevens." I am waiting for Alexander to confirm. We are not looking at the numbers or doing the math in the chapter in any case. We look instead at what was done, what it was for, at the overall "big picture" for what there was to "get" from it.
Daniel 9
24. "Seventy seventies shall rest upon your nation and upon the town of your reverence,* so as the obligations may be concluded and the sins may be curtailed, so that the abominations shall be abandoned, and that they may usher in the eternal righteousness, such as the vision and the prophesies* may be fulfilled, and to the Anointed One we may commit our blessings.
25. "And you shall know and understand, from the emergence of the Manifestation, who shall return and rebuild Jerusalem, and the coming of the Messiah King, seventy sevens and seventy sixties and two; he shall return and rebuild Jerusalem, its streets and gateways, to the end of the season.
26. "And after the seventy sixties and two, the Messiah shall be killed, and [Jerusalem] shall not have him, and the holy city shall be devastated, together with the next king,* and its end shall be evacuation, and until the end of the war there shall be killing and desolation.*
27. "And the Covenant shall be deepened for many, [a period of] seven and half [the period] of seven, sacrifices and offerings shall cease to be performed,* and over the wings of evil* there shall follow the desolation,* until the killings shall cease,* and [the dead shall] rest* upon the desolation.*
*9:24.1 Lit. Ar. idiom retained: "That you revere."
*9:24.2 Lit. Ar. id.: "The Prophets."
*9:26.1 Lit. Ar. idiomatic figure of speech: "The coming king."
*9:26.2 Lit. Ar. idiomatic expression: "The cuttings of desolation."
*9:27.1 Lit. Ar. id.: "Cancelled."
*9:27.2 Lit. Ar. id.: "Filth."
*9:27.3 Lit. Ar. id.: "Throes," or "destruction."
*9:27.4 Lit. Ar. id.: "Develop."
*9:27.5 Lit. Ar. idiom retained: "Cover."
*9:27.6 [Verses 22-27] The vision explained by Gabriel to Daniel accounts for every point of the prophesy regarding the coming of the Messiah Eashoa and His Mission. There is even the prophesy regarding New Jerusalem (mentioned in the New Testament in the Book of Revelation).
My comments:
The seventy sevens are the overall span of our "death" in this forgetting, the perfect time it takes us in these "lives" to accomplish God's will for us. The nation and town of our reverence are our manifestation and consciousness in the annexed brain in our skulls, "Jerusalem." But for what? "So as the obligations (to take on the likeness) may be concluded and the sins (variations from that likeness) may be curtailed, so that the abominations (our willful acts of independence, rebellion from Its order) shall be abandoned, and that they (the concluded obligations) may usher in the Eternal Righteousness (our likeness to the Ineffable, who is "Right"), such that the visions and prophets may be fulfilled, and to the Anointed One -- the Messiah -- we may commit our blessings (gratitude).
Verses 25 thru 27 are a confusing hodge-pudge of ideas that flit back and forth:
"From the emergence of the Manifestation (from the beginning of Christ, or the awareness of Messiah in us), who shall return and rebuild Jerusalem, and the coming of the Messiah King (the final success of the Messiah state in us in making us like the Ineffable), . . . He shall return and rebuild Jerusalem, its streets and gateways." Who returns and rebuilds? Messiah. From the beginning to the end it is the Messiah, that state of God working in us who conforms us to his image. Messiah is God. The one we forgot: Abel, the one who, though "dead," still speaks. He is spirit of God within us making us "alive." God is the Messiah, and we are that God. We do not remember it very well, but there is a real guy there: omnipotent God.
He deepens the Covenant for many; but if we forget him, if we ignore this state, if we "kill" the Messiah, if we do not listen to him and adjust our lives to the character of his nature, our "Jerusalem" shall not have him and our lives will be devastated. We will have to come back here and do all this suffering of ignorance over and over until we "get it."
The point is that no one is THE Messiah, a separate guy holed-up somewhere. Messiah is a state of God's consciousness within us, like our awareness that we are a transitory state of God's spirit, Abel. We are Abel anyway, but our awareness of that has been forgotten. Messiah is awareness toward establishing Israel in this "land," our minds/these lives. 'Israel' is Eil-ruling-as-man -- in you and I and anyone who will yield to him and apply themselves toward that work. We can be Messiah and rebuild the temple to the Fulfillment, or we can forget him. God help us if we forget him. Regardless of the work we do on the "temple" -- ourselves: this man or woman -- it will all be for naught.
After the sixty-ninth week of years, the spiritual attitude of Messiah was embodied throughout Israel/Judaea. Like Daniel, the Jews had counted the years and knew that it was time for the Messiah. The Jordan Valley was rife with teachers of righteousness and devoted disciples. They altogether were the state of Messiah as King, if the Jews wanted him. All they had to do was to fulfill the obligation and take on the nature of God himself: to love the Lord their God with all their heart, mind, strength, and soul, and their neighbors as themselves.
As an illustration, they were there. But as an illustration, they showed also what happens when you say, "Yeah, well, no thanks. Not if I'm not making money out of it." The Messiah left with the his adherents, and the secularists and the religionists reaped the whirlwind they had created. We are all responsible -- obligated -- to take on God's nature of loving himself and loving his manifestation. His manifestation is not all the chattel of the world that you can get; it is loving and serving one another as we would love and serve ourselves.
The seventieth week? Long past as the illustration and ongoing as our present situation. The sacrifices of obedience and offerings of praise have ceased because Messiah is "killed" in us by our forgetting. Our lives rest upon the desolation that follows our evil . . . until the killing shall stop and we accept the Messiah within us. I guarantee you, life is a whole lot better with him than without him. Because he actually is us he is always present, and waiting for you.
Happy Messiahing.
_____________________
I apologize for not editing this as I would like. My desktop is out of commission and I will have to return later to edit and revise.
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Thank you for spreading the truth in this pristine way. More messages like this are necessary for humanity. «Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one» is the most beautiful thing I've ever heard in my life.
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